Financing
the armed Anglophone struggle means financing death in Cameroon.
Kah
Walla –CPP Boss
Kah Walla: Cameroon People's Party |
Among
other things, Kah Walla, Chair Person of the Cameroon People’s Party CPP and
Head of the organisation “Stand up Cameroon” has cautioned those contributing towards
sustaining the Armed struggle in the two English Speaking Regions of Cameroon.
Financing the armed struggle she said was tantamount to financing death in
Cameroon. She said a war pitching one part of the country against the other will
never work. Stating that the armed struggle had obtained nothing, she stated
emphatically that the armed struggle has broken down the fabric of Anglophone
society. She was interviewed by Cameroon People in her Douala office.
Read on;
As one of Cameroon’s leading political leaders, what is your take on the
quasi disarray that presently characterizes Cameroon’s sociopolitical
landscape?
I am a
Political Leader and I say so because I hear my name constantly being linked to
activism. An activists and a politician are two distinct people. The definition
of politics to me is providing solutions to society’s problems. It is very
important to realise that when we stand up for roads, water, for people’s
rights so that they are not arrested then that is politics. We should therefore
not allow any body to take us into some pseudo political stance. This was seen
in the way the elections in Cameroon were conducted. It was carried out as if
we were in France, Sweden or somewhere else with candidates who were not
addressing the issues on the ground. With candidates who allowed themselves to
go into a system which they knew from the start could not allow them win Mr.
Paul Biya.
What should be the focus of politics in Cameroon now?
In
Cameroon it is a matter of changing the power relationship between a dictatorship
and the people. There are however some good things that came out of that
elections. We saw a clear enthusiasm on the part of Cameroonians which
reassured some of us who had been working for change for a long time that this
population in its vast majority wants change. Secondly, Cameroonians from the
eight French Speaking Regions also moved to show that they were in support of
change. Many English Speaking Cameroonians have always wondered whether French
Speaking Cameroonians were happy with things the way they are. There was no
elective activity in the two English Speaking Regions and activities in the
other Regions showed that there was this need for change. Cameroonians as a
whole became more aware of the fact that we are faced with a system prepared to
kill us. We find ourselves in a system which cannot permit us to move. If we
want to bring about change then we must go out of the system. We must go out of
Mr. Paul Biya’s agenda. We cannot play the political game following only his
agenda. He is a master of the calendar and of all the players. We must move
ourselves out of that agenda.
What are those forces calling the shots in Cameroon’s politicking?
Cameroon
is faced today with two extreme forces. We have the Government on the one hand
which is an evil, violent, oppressive regime and has been so for 36 years. It
is not a regime which picks out a specific group of people. Today its target is
the Anglophone but we have seen on TV that yesterday its target was the
Population of the Far North Region. Tomorrow its target may be the population
of the East or even the population of the Center and South. If the regime feels
threatened and wants a way out and you stand in its way, you immediately become
an enemy. It doesn’t matter what part of the country you are from or what
ethnic group you are from. It doesn’t matter whether you are their brother or
not but if they feel that what you are doing is going to bring down their
regime then they will come after you and your arrests and torture will be the
outcome and they will kill if necessary.
We should
know that it is not a question of fighting a war with one part of the country
pitched against the other. A war pitching
a part of the country against the other will never work. It must be clear
that what we are fighting here is a regime which is against the people. We
cannot say the end justifies the means because that is what Mr. Biya will say. Mr.
Biya in his head actually believes that he and his regime are necessary to
maintain the stability of Cameroon and that whatever means they need to use to
stay in power is justified.
What exactly do you make of the armed Anglophone struggle?
We are no different from what we are fighting
against if we have to use the approach of “the end justifies the means.” We
confuse the people. If we look at the Anglophone struggle from when it started
in October 2016 when the Lawyers and the teachers started it and November 2017
when they decided to go in for an armed struggle you will agree that
Anglophones got more confused. At first when somebody was killed we knew
exactly who killed him. Now it isn’t the same for reasons we all know. I am not
trying to equate the warring factions here. It is the oppressive regime and its
marginalization of the Anglophones that lead to the rise of the armed
rebellion. One thing led to the other. What I am trying to say is that the
adoption of an armed approach is the wrong strategy. We have created a
situation where the Government can create confusion in the minds of the people
and the international community concerning the perpetrators of the ongoing
violence. If somebody is kidnapped today, we will not know who kidnapped that
person. Formerly we had a Government which was brutal and oppressive on its
people against a people who were fighting for their rights. When the people who
were fighting for their rights brought violence into it, they brought in
confusion. Some people say this one is “fake amba”, this other one is “real
amba” and I always ask the question; “who has the data base?” “Who is holding
the information on fake amba and real amba?” Today you sit in Douala or in
Yaounde and you receive threatening phone calls. Some people who want money.
Who are they? We have to admit that it is the adoption of an armed strategy
which has created the fertile ground for this. The armed strategy we have to admit has obtained nothing. We are no
more advanced today in the fight for Anglophone rights than we were when it
started. On the contrary when we were in a non violent fight, the Government
had at least come to the table even if we were not satisfied.
True that
it was the arrests of peaceful protestors and cutting of the internet that resulted
into the armed struggle but that armed struggle has not achieved anything. On
the contrary, when the people took up arms, the government instead stepped up
its violence and repression. Remember that before the armed struggle, no
village was burnt in the Northwest and Southwest Regions. It is the taking up
of arms which allowed the Government to feel that it was justified to carry out
the burning of villages. Before the armed struggle we never had a situation
where groups of young men were just found lying somewhere dead having been shot
by we don’t know who. We did not have the kidnappings which are occurring at a
terrible rate. The armed struggle has
broken down the fabric of Anglophone society. We have broken down the
Economy. Some say we want to make the region ungovernable. “Ungovernable for
who?” Mr Biya was never governing there and he didn’t care whether those areas
are governed or not. When we bring CDC to a stop, who is working in CDC? Who
are feeding their families through working in CDC? We have penalized the very
population for whom we say we are fighting.
Some NGOs including yours have been doing quite much out there. What
actually is being done?
The
situation has left many displaced people living under very vulnerable
conditions. We have those who are arrested and living in prison under very
horrible conditions. The arrests are still going on and we have about a
thousand people mostly young men and a few girls in there who are arrested
throughout the national territory. We have the Internally Displaced People. I
don’t have the recent figures but we have about half a million perhaps getting
close to 700.000 range of internally displaced. We equally have over 50.000
refugees in Nigeria. These are the effects of this armed conflict. When the
peaceful protests became violent, the Government used it as an excuse to
increase its violence on people and we now have the results before us.
At the
level of Stand Up for Cameroon, we have been drawing attention nationally and
internationally to what is going on in Cameroon. One of the things we have done
as mothers of the nation is that we took women, a vast majority of them from
the French Speaking Regions to go to the conflict regions and see what is
happening. Those women were so extremely touched and they brought in their
support and those women today are the ones insisting on the March on Yaounde
because what they saw in the Northwest and Southwest is unacceptable. We have
been bringing material and psychological support and moral support, helping the
people to organise themselves and continue to demand for their rights. Right
now we are collecting donations in kind and in cash to be able to help people
to have a normal festive period as we move into the New Year. We are also
monitoring what is being done by the International Agencies. What they are
claiming to be doing and what they are actually doing. For those who are in
jail, we are also providing support especially during this period. You know
that jail in Cameroon is money. You need money to be able to take a bath and
have a clean cell. We are providing financial support. Today you hardly hear
anybody talking about Mancho Bibixy,Terrence Pen and a host of others who are
still there. We want to provide some support to them and their families because
it is going to be very difficult for their families during this period without
these people who for the most part are the bread winners.
A growing worry is the fact that some NGOs and organisations are
actually enriching themselves from the situation while pretending to be taking
care of humanitarian needs.
The
terrible thing about war which many people do not realise is that there is a “War
Economy”. War lasts as long as it does because there are people who manage to
profit from it. We have to be clear about this. If the situation in the Northwest and Southwest is lasting this long,
it is because within government there are culprits who have been benefitting
from the sales of arms, profiting from the fact that they inflate bills to take
care of soldiers who are on the field and definitely profiting from the
humanitarian aid which was supposed to be 12 Billion Francs CFA. Any of us who’ve
been to the Northwest and Southwest Regions will bear with me that there is no
evidence of 12 Billion Francs having been spent on Internally Displaced People
there. We visited IDPs here in Douala who had been noted down on paper as
receiving that money. What we found out were people from families of 5 or 7 who
received only one mattress. A family of five to seven people was sharing a bag
of rice with five other families. This can’t even feed a family for one day.
We also
draw attention to the fact that there are some who have made astronomical
amounts of money from this situation. If people are collecting money then they
have to be capable of justifying that money. We also caution those who are
donating money. We have credible organisations on the ground and I don’t think
money should be given to anybody except to those who are on the ground. We know
organisations on the ground like that of Barrister Agbor Balla who is helping
those who are in prison. We know of the Ayah Foundation that is helping the
IDPs and the refugees. We know an organisation such as Stand Up for Cameroon
which is on the political front so let us not hand out money to people without
knowing what the money is being used for.
We also
caution those who are financing an armed struggle. When you finance an armed struggle then you are financing death in
Cameroon. People say they are fighting government but we can count the
number of government soldiers who have died as compared to the numerous
innocent civilians who have been killed ruthlessly.
Many
Cameroonians who looked up to the struggle now believe that it is taking them
down the drain. The Government according to them provides no better
alternative. What is your take on this?
We must
continue to fight the root cause which is the Biya Regime. We do this following
a non-violent approach on the bases of truth and justice. We cannot continue to
run after people who have lied to us. I remember that there are people who told
us on the first of October that there were UN soldiers already stationed at
Ambas Bay, that ships were there and that they themselves were coming to Buea
on that day. Nothing happened and people continue to follow and listen to them.
We have the Biya Regime that has equally not been true to us for 36 years.
Cameroonians know who hasn’t lied to them down the years. Cameroonians know
those people who have spoken the truth to them throughout. Cameroon Peoples Party
and Stand Up for Cameroon have always believed in and stood up for this type of
Political Transition; that is non-violent and standing up for the rights of the
people of Cameroon.
We have
maintained our Fridays in black and we want a majority of Cameroonians to join
us because at this point in time, if we see the whole of Yaounde, Douala, and
Bamenda in black we are bound to ask what is happening. We want Cameroonians to
join us when we are coming out for a march or for a sit in. You cannot sit home
and think things are going to change without action. People should know that
action takes place not in the hinterlands but in the Capital City in Yaounde.
The people we are trying to influence are in Yaounde and everything we do must
take place there in front of them. After the elections, many people said Madame
Kah Walla was right. It is not enough to be right. I want to have change. If
you think I was right then join us.
Among the twenty Political Parties that supported the candidacy of
President Paul Biya, yours was indicated to be among them..
There is
nowhere in the world except we want to invent it where leaders of political
parties are appointed. Even inside the party, they are elected. It is complete
absurdity and heresy to think that somebody will be appointed by someone who is
outside that political party and who belongs to another political party. It is
only in Cameroon that we can see such madness. Mr. Tita Fon used to be a member of the CPP
and founded the CPP and has been a faithful member from 2011 when he handed the
reins of the party to me. He has been a member of the party and was at the
congress when I was elected.
So how come the minister invited him as Chairperson of your party?
Mr Atanga
Nji, the Minister of Territorial Administration has a complete confusion in his
mind between his job as Minister of Territorial Administration and his role as
a militant of the CPDM Party. He confuses the two roles all the time. He was
the primary person arranging for the support of the twenty parties that
supported the CPDM. That is why we say, you cannot go to elections with this
kind of people. This is a man who is supposed to supervise elections busily
arranging with political parties to support a candidate. How then will he be
able to supervise elections? He did it and gave people money. The Biya regime
is amazing in the way it pushes Cameroonians to extreme levels of poverty and
then comes back with a few pennies telling you to come and join in against its
adversaries. So the same person who put you in a dire state of poverty now
comes with a few francs calling you to join him. Unfortunately we have a few
people who will still fall for that. I am very sad to see Mr Tita Fon fall in
this kind of thing. This is an elderly man from the Northwest Region of
Cameroon like me. This is somebody who had the courage in 2011 to transfer
power within his party. He has done very good things during his life time and
it is very unfortunate that at this time in his life, he should be betraying
himself as a person, betraying his region as an Anglophone, and betraying his
country Cameroon. However, the party is going on with its activities and going
on with a sole purpose of meeting up with its objectives.
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